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World Cup Officiating Insights with Alan Kelly - PRO Director of Senior Match Officials and Former FIFA Referee

July 09, 2026 7:00am 37 min

Send us Fan MailThe World Cup can make even experienced fans feel like the rules changed overnight. Players stay on their feet more, restarts happen faster, and referees seem more willing to let contact go without losing...

We Need Better Systems To Support Officials with Huck Sorock of REFR Sports

June 09, 2026 5:00pm 54 min

Send us Fan MailThe World Cup is almost here, and my life is about to get loud in the best way: I’m heading to seven matches with FIFA and TikTok as a Creator Correspondent, with access that changes what I can share and ...

Coach Challenges And Video Review In College Soccer with John Collins, NCAA Head of Officiating

May 28, 2026 2:00pm 1:11

Send us Fan MailCollege soccer is about to change in ways that will hit everyone on match day: referees, coaches, players, and the people in the stands wondering why the game has stopped again. After sharing a personal w...

World Cup Concerns on the "For Ref's Sake!" Podcast

May 21, 2026 1:00pm 55 min

Send us Fan MailThe strangest part about refereeing is that everyone sees you, but almost nobody knows you. This week David was a guest on the "For Ref's Sake" podcast. We talk about how I went from a grassroots soccer r...

You Can Build A Referee Program That Kids Want To Join with Carlos Ledesma

May 14, 2026 7:00am 42 min

Send us Fan MailThe fastest way to lose a new referee is to certify them online and then throw them into the deep end on a busy weekend. We start with a few big updates from my world, including our first Dr. Tom Gerson P...

Update! Bouncing Back After A Mistake

April 25, 2026 2:00pm 6 min

Send us Fan MailA single referee mistake can hijack your confidence for days, especially when it happens in a high school playoff match with a crowd watching. I share a raw update on a procedural error I had to admit pub...

Integrity Over Ego: Why I Took a Goal Off the Board

April 23, 2026 8:00am 29 min

Send us Fan MailA playoff match can feel perfect for 50 minutes and then unravel in 10 seconds. That’s what happened to me in Georgia, and I’m not proud of it. I’m sharing the full, raw story of a high school postseason ...

Brand New at 42 with Holly Jimenez - It's Never Too Late To Be Great!

April 16, 2026 7:00am 44 min

Send us Fan MailThe hardest part of picking up a whistle as an adult isn’t learning the signals, it’s walking onto the field while everyone assumes you’ve done this forever. Holly Jimenez knows that feeling firsthand. Sh...

What Elite FIFA Officials Can Teach Grassroots Referees with Jan Aravirtra, Referee Academy

April 05, 2026 12:00pm 47 min

Send us Fan MailThe fastest way to level up as a soccer referee is not learning one more obscure law, it is learning how to handle people when the match te. I’m joined by Jan Aravitra, a former FIFA international referee...

Premier League Referee Scott Ledger on Longevity, Learning and Love of the Game

March 13, 2026 8:00am 49 min

Send us Fan MailA soldier-turned-official sets a six-year goal to reach the Premier League—and makes it! Then he does an even rarer thing: he stays for over 15 years! We sit down with Scott Ledger, a 500+ appearance Prem...

How Hard Work And Endless Learning Built A 500-Game Premier League Career with Scott Ledger

March 06, 2026 9:00am 57 min

Send a textA soldier-turned-official sets a six-year goal to reach the Premier League—and makes it! Then he does an even rarer thing: he stays for over 15 years! We sit down with Scott Ledger, a 500+ appearance Premier L...

Respect The Call, Change The Game with Kari Seitz, VP of Referees for US Soccer

February 25, 2026 10:00am 43 min

Send us Fan MailAbusive sidelines don’t fix bad calls—and they’re driving referees out of the game. We sat down with U.S. Soccer’s Vice President of Referees, Kari Seitz, to break down how “Respect the Call” and Policy 5...

Inside Video Review with Greg Barkey, Head of VAR for PRO

February 15, 2026 10:00am 1:03

Send us Fan MailEver wonder what “clear and obvious” actually means when the stakes are high and the clock is running? We bring you a rare, candid look inside MLS video review with Greg Barkey, the head of VAR at PRO. Gr...

Inside Sunday League with Eric Edge from "Behind The Whistle"

February 10, 2026 8:00am 1:01

Send us Fan MailEver wonder what a referee actually says to defuse tenssions—or how it feels to make a split-second call with no assistants and 22 players demanding an answer? We sit down with Eric Edge, the former semi-...

Authority Without Anger: The Quiet Power Of A Calm Referee With Alex Perez

January 25, 2026 7:00pm 51 min

Send us Fan MailThis week, we have a true full-circle moment on the show. After listening to our recent episode with Kevin Klinger on referee mindset, Regional Referee Alex Perez sent in an incredible email about how he ...

The Mental Game: Building Better Referees with Kevin Klinger

January 13, 2026 4:00pm 54 min

Send us Fan MailPressure doesn’t just come from the scoreboard—it lives in your head and your chest when the crowd roars and a coach questions your integrity. We sit down with Kevin Klinger, Director of Referee Education...

From Grief To Growth: A Referee’s Year Of Loss, Reinvention, And Impact

January 01, 2026 2:00pm 21 min

Send us Fan MailA year can include joy and pain without destroying you. In 2025, I said goodbye to my dad—the person I called on every big news story, new tech breakthrough, or small family win—and then rebuilt my life i...

From Shortage To Solution: Reimagining Education For Officials with Kyle Armstrong of RefReps

December 24, 2025 7:00am 48 min

Send us Fan MailEver tried to judge a play from six feet off the ground with bodies flying past and zero replays? That’s where referees live, and it’s nothing like the view from the stands. We sit down with RefReps CEO K...

Howard Webb’s Lessons And Dealing With Negative Self-Talk

December 03, 2025 8:00am 30 min

Send us Fan MailBig games don’t get easier; you get better at carrying them. Ahead of my first State Cup final, I open up about nerves, preparation, and the quiet work that turns pressure into focus: fitness tuned for la...

Saving Grassroots Soccer Through Referee Support with The Referee Advocates

November 15, 2025 7:00pm 53 min

Send us Fan MailWe sat down with Daneen Gonçalves, founder and chief visionary officer of The Referee Advocates, to unpack a simple idea with massive impact: treat referees like an integral and supported part of your clu...

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